AEE 2641: Should You Call Someone a Bummer?

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Today, find out how to make sure you don't trivialize a situation in English. Hey, Aubrey, how's it going? I'm great. How are you, Lindsay? Good. Aubrey, is there anything that's getting you down this week, making you feel kind of low?

Yeah, I just got home from vacation, which is always tough. I haven't had to cook for anyone in several days. Now I'm like, what do I make for dinner?

Yeah. There's always a bit of a letdown when you come home from vacation, right? Yeah. Get back to work and everything. That's such a bummer. Really. It is such a bummer that I have to start having my mom responsibilities back.

It's always kind of nice to get a break, but I'll survive. Yeah. So today we're talking on the show about the word bummer. I mean, it doesn't get more slangy than this, right?

Right. It's a very casual way of expressing disappointment or feeling down, but it's pretty playful like this to just be like, yeah, it's a bit of a bummer instead of all of the much more negative and fatalist ways that I could say that. It's a great word for connection too, because when I said to you, oh, that's such a bummer, I'm saying, I hear you. I get it.

I've been in that situation before. Right. It's such a great way of expressing empathy with someone else's situation, right? You're acknowledging it without turning it into a huge deal.

Right. It's not a tragedy, right? And it doesn't need to be treated like a tragedy. And that actually would be really strange. I don't know if this has ever happened to you, Lindsay, where you sort of say something that's not such a big deal and there's an overreaction.

Yes. Like, oh, that's so horrible. That's devastating. And you're kind of like, okay, chill. Yeah. It's strange because it makes you feel anytime reactions are not correct in, are not commensurate with what happened.

It feels like, is the person being disingenuous? Are they being fake? Are they not getting me? Or what's going on here? It's true. There's a disconnect.

Yeah. Yes, that can break the connection. So bummer is often the perfect response. Kind of be like, oh, I understand that is unfortunate, but not to go overboard with the reaction.

And then in the opposite way, we want to make sure we're not using it for situations that do require a bigger reaction. Like the death of a family member is not a bummer. Okay. Exactly.

That's such a good point, right? If you're wanting to be supportive, this could be offensive or just tone deaf, depending on the situation. Right. Okay.

So we got a lot to get into today. I love when we have a chance to break down slang into how to use it to connect. So guys, if you love our style, connection, not perfection is what we call it. Go ahead and hit the follow button right here on the podcast.

Or if you prefer YouTube, go over to YouTube, find Allers English, hit subscribe. Awesome. So let's dive in and talk about when we can use bummer, right? This is for small or medium disappointments.

So things that are annoying, but not devastating. Yes, exactly. So you could say that something was a bummer, right? So for example, how was your date?

Oh, the cafe was closed when we arrived. It was such a bummer. Yeah. Right. It's not that big of a deal. A little bit of a disappointment, but not the end of the world.

Exactly. We can also frame this in what a bummer. So what seat did you get on the flight? I got the middle seat. What a bummer. Exactly. Right. I'm always in the middle.

I'm always in the middle. Honestly, this is where I live. I often am too. But it is kind of a bummer. You have to ask someone to move if you want to get up.

You can't see out the window. Someone might fall asleep and lay their head on your shoulder. And you've got two armrests to share. Right. It's rough. Exactly.

Right. Or we might just say bummer. Right. So for example, Aubrey, what might you say? Oh, no. It's starting to rain. We should probably cancel the picnic.

Bummer. Yeah. Bummer. Yes. Right. We'll just say bummer by itself like that. Yeah. And now let's get into when we should not say bummer. Right. Like you mentioned, serious situations, death, serious breakups after quite a bit of time, serious illness, job loss, all of this, you're really undermining it to call it a bummer.

Exactly. Big things that really change your life or create emotional upheaval or devastation, we don't want to use bummers. So for example, I'm so sorry about your divorce. What a bummer.

Don't say that. That's a what not to say. Right. Exactly. That's cruel. Actually, it can be offensive, very tone deaf when it's something that's big and tragic for someone.

It's not a bummer. It's devastating. Yeah. I mean, you might hear someone using it, but they're using it in kind of a nefarious way in this situation.

They're trying to say, oh, I don't really care. Or like, I'm glad to see that it's not good. Yeah, you might intentionally say bummer in order to take the weight out of a situation, right? But if you are trying to express empathy for something that is a serious situation, you wouldn't want to call it a bummer, right?

Another bad example is like, oh, your grandpa passed away. That's a bummer. no way too light way too light for the death of a family member this reminds me of a quick joke that my dad would always say he says because we would always ski growing up and he had this joke he'd say how does a snowboarder introduce themselves how bummer man sorry about that like they just ran into you and then he'd say bummer man

Right. And so he's saying that they're too flippant, right? Exactly. Because you could break your back if someone, that's the thing, skiing's a little dangerous when you're more, the most dangerous time skiing is when you're waiting in the lift line because people can come bombing into you.

And I've heard of people like breaking their back paralyzed for life because someone else can't control their skis, right? Right. That would not be a bummer. That would be a tragedy.

A good example. Yeah. For sure. Bummer, man. Yeah, I love that. And then what about calling a person a bummer, Lindsay? Would you ever call someone a bummer to their face?

It's really a no-go. It doesn't really make any sense. I mean, I guess, but I think I'm going to say no. Yeah. No, it's an insult for sure. I would say it makes sense.

I've heard people described as a bummer, right? They're a party pooper. They're not fun. They're boring. This is something people will call them. Yeah.

Debbie Downer be like, that guy's such a bummer, but it's very negative. It means they kill the mood. It's not kind. So, I mean, you can say, again, we want to show you guys how to be your own personality in English.

If that is your personality to say that, go for it, right? That's kind of what we're saying, but it's not kind. Like it's not connection. Exactly. If you say to someone's face, you're such a bummer, you bring the whole vibe down.

And you might say that to a close friend who's being really negative, who's not fun, and you're trying to have a good time. Yes, you might say that. But if you say this to someone, you do risk hurting their feelings, offending them. It's not a kind thing.

Nobody wants to be a bummer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes you want to try to snap someone out of something. Maybe they're in a funk. A funk is a good word to explain.

Maybe they've been in a bad mood for weeks and it's time for them to just wake up and get out of it. Yeah, you might say that to a good friend, right? Right. But like at work, maybe there is someone who is kind of a bummer, kind of a downer.

It would be uncomfortable to other coworkers if you're like, oh, Bob's such a bummer. They are such a downer because in general, it's just a good tip to not speak negatively about coworkers. It can put people in an awkward, uncomfortable situation. You're likely going to have to work with that person.

What if they find out you said this? There are so many reasons to not speak unkindly about people. It's going to come back and bite you or come back and haunt you for sure. No question.

Okay, good. All right. So Aubrey, what else can we maybe say when we're describing a different, a disappointing situation? We've decided we don't really want to use it about people.

We don't want to use it about serious things. Light to medium disappointments. Yeah. And these are synonyms. So these are also both not that extreme, not for...

really disappointing and sad situations. They're also pretty lighthearted, similar to bummer. You can call something a letdown, right? Your expectations just weren't met.

It's pretty casual, acknowledges disappointment, but it's not that deep. It's not very serious. It's not that deep. It's not devastating. Right. For example, what would you say?

I would say, did you like that movie? Not really. I thought it was kind of a letdown. Yeah. Disappointing. It's just a more interesting way of saying it was a little bit disappointing.

Maybe it was overhyped and then you didn't really like it. You'd be like, yeah, it was a letdown. Or you could say, what a letdown. These are just ways we're going to package this word into different phrases, which is what our listeners need to know.

So if I say, did you hear they canceled the concert? No, what a letdown. I was already on my way. Yeah. And I would be more likely to say bummer or letdown instead of what a disappointment.

That does sound a bit more formal, a bit more heavy, right? Whereas these are like a little more, like we're saying, just not that deep. They're better for situations that are a bummer, a letdown, but not the end of the world. Yeah.

You might reserve the word disappointment for a business context, right? When you're more buttoned up and you're talking to, yeah, you just want to change your register a little bit, right? And we talk about that over on Business English. If you guys want to learn more about that, open your search bar, search for Business English.

Absolutely. And lastly, a downer. We say this a lot, just something that makes the mood worse, brings the energy down. It's a little bit stronger than bummer, but in the same way, people can be called a downer, but it's very similar to calling someone a bummer.

It's not kind. Right, right. So something was a downer. Did you watch the series finale? Yes, it was such a downer. I was hoping it would end on a high note.

Yeah. This reminds me of Game of Thrones. Did you watch Game of Thrones? That was a letdown, a downer for many people. No spoilers in case you haven't heard it, but a lot of people were disappointed with the ending.

Really? Interesting. Okay. Which game? Because there's a bunch of them. The original Game of Thrones with Khaleesi with the long silver hair. The end of her arc was a downer.

I'll have to go back and watch that again. My niece loves that. She loves Game of Thrones. It's funny. It's funny. I love it too, but I understand why it was a letdown for people.

Okay, cool. Good to know. And also you could say, you know, what a downer, right? How was your work dinner? It started off well, but then they announced budget cuts.

What a downer. not good. That's a good way to ruin a work dinner. That's horrible. Yeah. Big downer. So these are good ones. Downer and let down are really good examples of things that feel about the same as bummer.

Exactly. Let's do a role play here. You and I went on vacation in this role play and we had high expectations, but we were let down by the whole experience. Oh, that's the worst.

All right, here we go. I was so excited for this vacation. Me too. The hotel pictures looked so good, but the reality is kind of a letdown. I know. The rooms are smaller and a little outdated.

It's such a bummer. The hotel restaurant isn't the best either. The food is okay, but the service is really slow. Yeah. And the staff seem like they really don't want to be here.

It's such a downer. Oh man, has that ever happened to you? You see the brochure, shiny, shiny, beautiful pictures. Yes. I have a feeling everyone out there has experienced this at some point.

And really this role play highlights how we do need multiple ways to say that. If you're going to have this conversation, imagine if you said disappointment over and over and over. No, we need lots of ways to express this. Right.

Or another example of this could be when you're house hunting or apartment hunting and you know how they always take the real estate photos from the perfect angle where it looks huge and beautiful and then you go to look at it or even an Airbnb and it's just ugly and small and dirty. Yeah. Yes. So that one of the first houses that we moved to when we were checking out and we ended up buying it, the yard, the backyard looked pristine.

It was beautiful and green and then landscape rock sort of around the landscaped grass. And then the reality was such a letdown. It was like dead weeds had grown through the landscape rock and all of the grass was dead. So the whole backyard was just sort of dead yellow.

Oh, that is a major bummer. It was such a bummer. Quite a letdown. All right. That's another great example where, yeah, yeah, you know, this is not the death of someone.

Like this is a lighter to medium sized disappointment. Absolutely. Fixable, not the end of the world, but just a little disappointing. Disappointing. Yeah, exactly.

This is a perfect role play for this. You know, I said the hotel pictures look so good, but the reality is kind of a letdown. So we were expecting, you know, this impressive hotel and then it's maybe a little rundown. Yep, exactly.

And then I said, I know the rooms are smaller and they're a little outdated. It's such a bummer. So I just tacked that on to the end of my statement. Perfect.

You're bummed out, I would say. It's such a bummer. And then we're talking about the hotel restaurant, which also isn't the best. You say, yeah, it's such a downer.

So we're just kind of saying we're both disappointed, but using these really fun phrases that lighten the mood a little bit. Right. And kind of put it into perspective, right? So when we use these words, we're also signaling, we know this isn't devastation.

This isn't the end of the world. Worse things are happening around the world, right? Yes, we're disappointed, but we're recognizing it could be worse. That's another good example.

Any kind of like war, global unrest is not a bummer. It's much deeper than that, right? That's really trivializing it to call it a bummer or a downer. Yes.

Yes. Yeah, that's exactly it. Don't trivialize big things, right? But use this in the right moment at the right time. It's perfect. Okay, guys, go over to 2566.

Does strong English run in your family? Learn about how to talk about traits that you might share with family members. Yes, I love this. This is such a great connection moment.

There will be times when you are disappointed when something is a bummer. And there are some missteps you could accidentally make here. If you go too strong with the reaction, or if you call something a bummer, that shouldn't be because it is a really big deal. So this is really vital for the connection that you set the right tone with your vocabulary.

Yeah, I love it. Missteps can break connection. So maintain the connection by knowing that tone. That's it right there. All right. Good stuff, Aubrey.

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